Long Term Use Of Anabolics. The Long Haul Perspective.


I have been thinking a lot about this lately. Ever since I wrote my post on why I started anabolics.

When I first hopped on epiandrosterone, my goals were very short term. I did not think too far into the future terms of what I wanted. The only I did not want to fuck up was my long term health.

I just wanted to get even more swole then I already was. I wanted to concentrate and channel my emotions toward something positive.

But never did I think, what is my long term plan for the usage of anabolics? That never occurred to me. Not once.

My thought process was if this first one goes well, I will keep hitting up cycle until I hit   my goal.

Looking back on it, that might be a dangerous way to think. I smartened up along the way though.

I paid attention to how my body felt and always got bloodwork done. My cycles then became a question of  how much my body could handle. Not necessarily what I wanted.

My questions became, what is the safest method to go about using these compounds compounds long term if I choose to?

Then I started thinking, do other newbies think about stuff like this before they get started or while they are using?

I hope so. It would be really scary to me if they did. Things can get dangerous otherwise.

That leads me to this question for you guys then. What people's long term usage plans for anabolic compounds?

I guess this can be a broad question and the answer varies from person to person. I will use this post to   break down what I mean and my approach toward the answer. 

Sit tight. This won't be too long....I hope. 

What You Should Know Before You Get Started

So I have been using anabolics for the past 2.5 years (April 2014 to present). I have cycled on and off prohormones and SARMs.

I have used a lot of different compounds including 1-Andro, Epiandrosterone, MK-677, ostarine, LGD-4033, RAD-140, and andarine. 

I have bulked, recomped, and cut using the compounds I have listed above. I would say I have a decent amount of experience when it comes to this stuff.

Maybe not as much as Derek (from More Plates More Dates) or John Doe Body Bodybuilding, but I am plenty experienced to give newbies and beginners advice on how to get started safely and see great gains toward their physical development goals.

I have experienced the successes and hardships during many of these of anabolic cycle and I know what to help you guys invest in and avoid.

I want to let you know a couple things before you get started with this stuff make sure you embark down this path safely.

I delve into this slightly in my article on post cycle therapy but I think it needs more explanation.  

1) Get Bloodwork Done Before You Get Started

This is so important. Anabolic compounds can really amplify the effects on any medical issues you might have.

So you if you are prone to heart, liver, kidney, or any other specific issues; then you need to really talk to  your doctor to  see if anabolic compounds will work for you. 

If anything, it gives you peace of mind while going on your cycle. Trust me, that is nice to have instead of venturing into the unknown and hoping everything is okay.

If you do have any type of condition, you might have possibly saved yourself from making things worse by using anabolic compounds. Plus, now you know and can start treating the issue. 

Plus you have other options, in terms of muscle building supplements, that do not have significant potential long term side effects. Laxogenin, being one them (guide coming soon). 

2) Know Your Goals Before Getting Started

This might be the most important part of the whole process. What are your goals? Do you want to cut, bulk, or just recomposition. Whatever they are, this will dedicate how you approach your cycle. 

What compounds you take, how long your cycle is, dosage of the compound being taken, your on cycle support stack, your traditional supplement stack, diet, etc. 

These are things you should have figured long before you start your cycle. So figure out what you are trying to achieve and plan out everything accordingly.

3) Properly Educate Yourself On The Compounds You Are Taking

This is so necessary. You need to know what you are putting into your body and the compound can effect your body. 

What are side effects? Does it aromatize? Are the gains dry or wet? What is the half life? Is a mild compound (andarine, ostarine, epi andro) or more aggressive compound (LGD, RAD, 1 Andro)?

If you do not know the answers to the preliminary questions that I mentioned above then you need to figure it now. 

If you do not even know what I am talking about then you need to hold off that cycle and educate yourself about anabolic compounds before continuing down this path. 

4) Get All Supplies For The Cycle Before You Started

Get everything you need for your cycle before you get started. I mean everything. 

You want your anabolic compounds, on cycle therapy supplements, post cycle therapy, traditional supplement stack, etc. 

All that stuff should be on hand before you even get started. That will make your life so much easier instead of getting stuff when you need it. 

I have done the latter method before and you can run into some unforeseen snags along the way. Online vendors can mess up with your order. Or you keep forgetting to order a specific supplement.

That can frustrating to say the least. It is definitely not fun. So save you yourself some unneeded anger and just order it ahead of time. 

5) Time Out Your Cycle Promptly

You should know the length of your cycle (on cycle + post cycle therapy) and how it fits on to a calendar year. This allows you to properly budget how much time you need off between cycles.

This allows you plan around your cycle as well. You can plan out what you will need to do to maximize the productivity and effectiveness of your cycle. 

For instance,  if you are cutting, in the weeks going into your cycle you would want to try to slowly up you calories and decrease the cardio session. 

So when you start you cutting cycle and hop on a anabolic (to keep the muscle) and increase your cardio and caloric deficit, you can really shock your body.

Timing your cycle allows you to plan out and allocate time to the things you need to in order to make your cycle the most effective. 

6) Know Your Lifting Routine And Diet Before You Get Started

​This comes back to #2. As your diet will depend on what you goals are. Your diet should stay the same whether yo are bulking or cutting. Lift heavy and add volume in isolation exercises. 

However, it is up to you to plan the specifics of that weight lifting routine and diet. You should know what you are going to do on that end before the cycle even begins.

You ideally want to have it all written out like I did for my fall cut. That why you can always have a resource guide, like I did, if you forget what you should be doing. 

Plus, writing things down always helps when it comes to keeping yourself accountable in taking correct action toward your goals. 

7) Take The Minimum Dosage For The First 5-7 Days

I have followed this for every new compound that I have tried. You want to take the minimum dosage of whatever compound you are taking for 5-7 to see if there will be any adverse affects on your body. 

This is purely for precautionary reasons. So if anything goals wrong, you took as little of then compound as possible. This minimize any potential short or long term damage. Stay safe guys. 

8) Take On Cycle Therapy Seriously

There are plenty of guys out there who do not even do on cycle therapy. This is mind boggling to me. 

Why risk maximizing any side effects that might place? Those people are clearly prioritizing results over their long term health. I do not advise this. 

You need to protect yourself from multitude on issues while on cycle. Higher estrogen levels, blood pressure, resting heart rate, and other things are stuff you leave yourself at risk for. 

It does not have to be this way. Taking quality over the counter supplements to protect your body is something that you need to do during your cycle to protect your health. 

I suggest you use Arimacare Pro by Olympus Labs. This has plenty of organ support, as well as an estrogen blocker to make sure your estrogen levels do not climb through the roof and get gyno (bitch tits).

9) Take Post Cycle Therapy Seriously

This is an extension of the argument above. This is more from a testosterone recovery standpoint though. Getting your natural hormonal pathways back to full functionality is essential to being healthy again.  

You need to do everything in your power to make sure you recover your natural testosterone production as soon as possible. 

That means take all the necessary compounds you need to. You really can just get a prescription or research SERM and Super PCT from Olympus Labs. You should be good to go with that but add any other support that you think you might need. 

I go way more in depth into this in my article about post cycle therapy. That guide should help you in terms of what you need to do in order to have a proper and successful post cycle therapy. 

10) Take The Proper Amount Of Time Off Between Cycles

This another things guys blatantly ignore. However, the blame does not completely fall on them. There is a lot of misinformation out there on shady supplement sides and forums that give out awful advice on how to use anabolics.

If it sounds to good to be true, then it usually is. So do not pay attention to that stuff guys.

Anyone who says you only need 2-4 weeks off everything after post cycle therapy clearly does not know what they are talking about.

They are usually shitty supplement companies and affiliates who want you to buy more of their product at the expense of your long term health. 

Fuck that noise. Do not fall for it guys. Your amount of time off cycle needs to equal your amount of time used during the cycle (on cycle + post cycle therapy = time off cycle).

This is gives your body any extra time it need to fully recover from the cycle. Plus, you can assess how you feel and if you are ready for another cycle.

Get blood work done during this time and make sure there are now outstanding medical issues that need immediate treatment. Taking the proper time off is a great way to keep your health in check.  

Long Use Use And Cycling Of Anabolics

So the normal person will always have a genetic ceiling of the amount of muscle his body can on and keep on. For most guys, that will be 35 to 50 pounds of lean muscle.

For most guys who want to go the natural route, that will take a couple years of bulking cycles to get your desired levels of strength and size. You will have to go cutting cycles after those bulking those cycles to stay lean and cut.

You will make a good portion of those gains in your first 12-18 months of lifting. Then all you gains will come steadily after that but not nearly as quickly as they did during the first 12-18 months.  

I recommend waiting at least 2 years into weight lifting journey and being 23 years old or older to start using anabolics.

You want to exhaust your newbie gains. Natural newbie gains are like the equivalent to what you would see on anabolic compounds anyway. Plus, you testosterone and growth hormone (GH) levels of a healthy male under the age of 23 should be sky high. 

So start you first cycle when you are 23 and have together 2 years of consistent work in the gym. 

Start Of Cycling

So now you are ready to start using anabolics. You go back to your goals and yo have planned things out on what you need to in order to get your goals. 

For example, you say you want to put on 20 more pounds in lean muscle. That means I will have to go on three cycles of Epi Andro or Ostarine. 

All of which, lasting 12 weeks (8 weeks on cycle + 4 post cycle therapy). I expect to 6 to 7 pounds of lean muscle per cycle. 

If that those cycle are timed correctly and I take proper time off (6 months = 3 months cycle + 3 off cycle), I should reach my goal in a 1.5 years. 

Then I will go on a cutting cycle to lose about 10 pounds in fat so I am ripped. That will be another cycle. 

So now you have your cycle planned out for the next years and you know exactly what you are going to do. At least, you should. 

Now you execute and look to o achieve you goals. But what happens after the four cycles and I achieve my goals. 

Do I keep cycling?

Should I Cycle Forever?

This goes back the original question of long term usage of anabolic compounds.

Ideally, you accomplish your bodybuilding goals and built a physique that you are proud of.  

Once you reach your desired levels of strength, size, and body fat; the idea is to maintain that physique naturally for the next coming years and move on to a new goal.

Unless you want to be a 300 pound bodybuilder. Then you will need to cycle anabolics forever. 

But that is not the goal for most of you. Most of you guys want to pack on some mass and look like greek gods naked. 

That;s fine. So do I. We work hard toward achieving the bodies and looks that we want.

But once we get there, it is time to move on.

The idea is should not need to cycle on anabolics forever but only handful of years until you reach your fitness goals.

Then cycle on some laxogenin and other traditional bodybuilding supplements to maintain your physique. 

Then move on to other life goals such as getting laid, making more money, starting a business, whatever it is. 

Do not get stuck on bodybuilding. I have been there. It can suck away time and effort from other parts in your life that you want to improve. 

Now do not get me wrong, I am not knocking bodybuilding. I think it a great lifestyle choice for men in the 20s. You can learn about goal setting and build  tremendous discipline from it. 

But once you achieve you goals, move the fuck on.

Do not get stuck. Keep improving yourself in other areas. That is what success rebels do. 

They keep moving up the mountain and refuse to get trapped in one spot. 

Now if you need TRT to maintain healthy, testosterone levels then that is different. But do not put yourself in a position where that has to be you 10-15 years from now. 


That is my perspective on long term use of anabolics. 

Plan out your cycles and use them for a couple years to achieve your fitness goals. Nothing less and nothing more. This is my plan. 

Ideally, you should only need a couple cycles to get to where you want to be. If you maximize your time on cycle.

Then you move on from anabolics and only hop on cycle when you fall out of shape for a bit and need to ramp things up quickly. Nothing wrong with that. I have been there. 

I believe this is the safest approach for guys who do not want to rely on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) when are older or want permanent HPTA shutdown.  

That is not to say that you guys cannot always use some type of hormonal support. I encourage that. Why not? 

There are tons of options out there like aromatase inhibitors, sodium D-Aspartic acid, SERMs, and plenty of other stuff.

I am just saying, that does not mean you need to anabolics term.

I know a lot of guys do not want to go that route. You just want to get swole and maintain your gains. For that, there is not to use anabolics long term. Use any of the other less hardcore methods I mentioned above.  

I do not think there is anything wrong with guys who do use anabolics long term. That is there choice and I respect that completely.

I just believe that should not be in the plan from the beginning. That you should plan things out properly and know exactly what you are doing.

This is so you can maximize your usage of anabolics and not put yourself in a position where you need to use them long term.

Then when you have hit your physique goal. You can safely move on from anabolics. If you want to that is.  

Prepare to use them. Use them. Make your gains. Take proper health precautions. Then move on from them.

Come back only when you need to. Time to move on to a new goal.

Like me, I am sure there are plenty of things you guys want to achieve.

Nuff said.

As always.

Your boy.

Ray Kingsman.